Google and SmartCJ

[darkfarrow]

Do we need to update the script to the latest build get that tag removed?

correcto mundo

[admin]

Do we need to update the script to the latest build get that tag removed?

Yes

[tubeman]

One more site got delisted by google yesterday.Any tips on how to avoid google de-listing sites? Any good advice would be appreciated.

[admin]

Let me know if I can do something here.

[kenhirai]

Did u guys use webmaster tools and install verification on sites that are penalized?

[tubeman]

Did u guys use webmaster tools and install verification on sites that are penalized?

Did it on 1 site and google flagged it as "Spam - Quality With Content" and I checked with other fellow webmasters also and their sites also got banned because of this reason.

If you are grabbing videos from other tubes there's no way we can change or control this quality issue and once google bans a site it is gone for a very longtime.

How are your sites holding up so far? Any advice?

[kenhirai]

1. not about embed, u can see scrape sites are still holding top placement in google, but i see them drop in traffic these few months. not dead yet though.

2. not about duplicate, hosted tubes own alot of rankings too and they are all duplicate contents and share with many sites.

well, its hard to leave any suggestion before finding a pattern of the occurrences. My sites arent hit but who knows, my assumption is hardlink, most webmaster setup a network and link to each other, if 20% of the sites are slapped, the rest will be devalued eventually. one major influence is outbound link. try removing toplist for few days and see if the traffic bounce back. please response for any fluctuation u observe.

[tubeman]

1. not about embed, u can see scrape sites are still holding top placement in google, but i see them drop in traffic these few months. not dead yet though.

2. not about duplicate, hosted tubes own alot of rankings too and they are all duplicate contents and share with many sites.

well, its hard to leave any suggestion before finding a pattern of the occurrences. My sites arent hit but who knows, my assumption is hardlink, most webmaster setup a network and link to each other, if 20% of the sites are slapped, the rest will be devalued eventually. one major influence is outbound link. try removing toplist for few days and see if the traffic bounce back. please response for any fluctuation u observe.

Thanks for your advice. I will remove the toplists from the banned sites but I doubt that google is going to bring back the sites into its index anytime soon.

[kenhirai]

well the sooner u react the better, if ur domains are old then it has high hope to gaining back ranking, i got penalized several major times throughout these 10 years of doing tgps, and mostly they are outbound links, as soon as i remove them, the 2 days later traffic bounce back to before... thats my thought try it hope helps.

also remember this gold rule of 10 days cycle, anything u change give it 10 days to see effect, if after that u dont see any improve, move on.

also google these days love to fluctuate their results, either they love to rotate more contents or they are doing tests with ranking, so beware that if u own a network, some sites will rise while other fall, its hard to keep x amount of hits per day nowadays, my profile is 10% of sites own a big junk of traffic 60% on average, and the rest are the lowest amount per day, its really number game.

if using toplist, fluctuation is even more, because page counts as a score too, people link out on their million page authourity site and each page with a toplist link pointing to ur site that doesn't look too natural, good example is tube pleasure and his network, its dropping like stone already, also tubegalore and its network is dropping too, they are internetworking their sites on every page, so maybe thats a signal.

1. not about embed, u can see scrape sites are still holding top placement in google, but i see them drop in traffic these few months. not dead yet though.

2. not about duplicate, hosted tubes own alot of rankings too and they are all duplicate contents and share with many sites.

well, its hard to leave any suggestion before finding a pattern of the occurrences. My sites arent hit but who knows, my assumption is hardlink, most webmaster setup a network and link to each other, if 20% of the sites are slapped, the rest will be devalued eventually. one major influence is outbound link. try removing toplist for few days and see if the traffic bounce back. please response for any fluctuation u observe.

Thanks for your advice. I will remove the toplists from the banned sites but I doubt that google is going to bring back the sites into its index anytime soon.

[tubeman]

well the sooner u react the better, if ur domains are old then it has high hope to gaining back ranking, i got penalized several major times throughout these 10 years of doing tgps, and mostly they are outbound links, as soon as i remove them, the 2 days later traffic bounce back to before... thats my thought try it hope helps.

also remember this gold rule of 10 days cycle, anything u change give it 10 days to see effect, if after that u dont see any improve, move on.

also google these days love to fluctuate their results, either they love to rotate more contents or they are doing tests with ranking, so beware that if u own a network, some sites will rise while other fall, its hard to keep x amount of hits per day nowadays, my profile is 10% of sites own a big junk of traffic 60% on average, and the rest are the lowest amount per day, its really number game.

if using toplist, fluctuation is even more, because page counts as a score too, people link out on their million page authourity site and each page with a toplist link pointing to ur site that doesn't look too natural, good example is tube pleasure and his network, its dropping like stone already, also tubegalore and its network is dropping too, they are internetworking their sites on every page, so maybe thats a signal.

1. not about embed, u can see scrape sites are still holding top placement in google, but i see them drop in traffic these few months. not dead yet though.

2. not about duplicate, hosted tubes own alot of rankings too and they are all duplicate contents and share with many sites.

well, its hard to leave any suggestion before finding a pattern of the occurrences. My sites arent hit but who knows, my assumption is hardlink, most webmaster setup a network and link to each other, if 20% of the sites are slapped, the rest will be devalued eventually. one major influence is outbound link. try removing toplist for few days and see if the traffic bounce back. please response for any fluctuation u observe.

Thanks for your advice. I will remove the toplists from the banned sites but I doubt that google is going to bring back the sites into its index anytime soon.

You have made some very valid points and I appreciate your input.I have observed the exact same patterns with my network based on what you said. When you say that in the past your Tgps got penalized , did they lower in rankings or they got completely De-listed from googles index and after you removing links they bounced back?