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What is the current situation with Google / search engine traffic to SmartCj.com sites? I think that this has been going on for over two years now, and one of the known reason for penalties is, what they call, Pure Spam. Also, I would say that most of the SmartCj.com script domains, don't even show in Google.com, for something like "site:domain-name".

I don't have any SmartCj.com sites yet, but I am planning to get into this, possibly, and traffic from search would be an important thing. Maybe the admin could do something, figure out exactly what to do, or change the script. I know that people were changing "/scj/admin" to something else too, but it was questionable, whether it was making a difference. In general, if there is a way to keep search engine traffic at 30% or more of overall traffic to the site, it would be the best.

I know that unique titles and possibly also descriptions (this is an extra) are an important thing for this.

Maybe everybody can post here what they've seen on their sites, and what they think, and maybe there will be a way to even modify the script, so it works good with the search engine sites.

I heard that Smart Thumbs sites are not affected, or not as much as SmartCj.com sites, so where is the difference here?

Thanks.

This topic has been discussed a couple of times already and you can find easily find it.
Hint : Google doesn't ban domains based on scripts or any other technology , it analyze your content.
If all your site is just a pure spam - google will ban you despite of the script you are using.

Can being banned from Google with a SmartCj.com site be narrowed down to too high traffic skim, and not enough actual content on the site (like picture galleries, or embedded videos). If yes, what skim could be ok / acceptable (border line / threshold), and how much content should I have?

I guess they crawl these sites, see that all banners get redirected to a different domain, and ban it. If 80% of these links would be pointing to the internal pages of the domain (deeper pages), it would be ok with them. Is it more or lees how it works?

I'm a programmer , not a SEO guy, so i don't know ...
You have a theory so you can test it on your sites

It would be good if other people who work on these type of sites, would add their opinion too. My idea of this is, that Circle Jerk sites (like 100% traffic skim or close to) are against what Google wants to display in their results. They look at it as link farms with no actual content and ban it.

So the idea would be to lower the traffic skim, I am not sure how much, and add more content to the site. What else could be helpful with good and long term traffic from google.com?

Do you have any examples of SmartCj.com sites with good Google traffic / high SemRush Rank?

Again, it would be good if advanced users could join in, as this is an important topic. Traffic from google.com spread out into trades -> $$$.

Thanks.

I would suggest that this topic will be looked into and discussed all over again. I went to google.com, and entered "inurl:scj/admin", and I only got 9 results. I think it was a lot more, at least 900 something like 2 years ago. Duplicate results are omitted, and when I expand it is something like 71, and it is because it is different urls, from the same domains.

Maybe the SmartCj.com company could hire a good seo / xxx seo person to look into this, get exact answers of what needs to be done (and how) in order to get traffic from google.com / search, at this point. What types of websites are ok (how much content on the site), what traffic skim is acceptable, and how to make everything work, without affecting traffic from search, long term.

Let's say i'm an advanced webmaster
Why would I share this information with you?

admin wrote:Let's say i'm an advanced webmaster
Why would I share this information with you?

It may not make sense for an advanced webmaster to share info, even though I personally don't care and share most of what I know about anything, anyway. You are the admin, so it would be good for you to clear it up. I theoretically may start working on a network of 100 Smart Cj sites (could be paid script), and start recommending it to people, because it is good. If something does not work with Google, people start to stay away from it, and go for programs that are ok with this. It used to be like this with Plugrush, and even Ero-advertising for some time. People were saying, there is something going on with them and google, they ban them, so it is better to stay away from them. For you this may mean 200% or 300% of income, instead of the current levels, lets say, and also if it does now work with google, it would and it will prevent me from working on this. I know that you are probably not happy about hearing this (I've been on this forum before, and I read some of the previous discussions, if not all), but it should be looked as something that needs to be looked into / addressed, and resolved. Like create a sticky post with guidelines for webmasters, who want to get traffic from search, lets say (or something like this).

Traffic from google and other search engines is of the best quality, better than skimmed traffic from Traffic Holder, or clicks from banner ads. I am not saying that it is 100% the best for SmartCj.com sites, but it is still good. If I can manage to get like 200 people from search per site per day, and I work on 100 SmartCj.com I have 20,000 traffic from search, which produces $$$. This traffic is good for sales, like live cams, dating, something like CrakRevenue, and other things. This 20,000 produces income. Trade traffic is ok, but it may be not as good, and also this 20,000 can be fueling the trades too, so it may make all the difference. Search traffic is also fairly easy to get. You have a domain, fill it with content, and it starts coming in by itself. So having 20,000 of good traffic per day and not having it on 100 sites makes a lot of a difference.

This is not steady too. It may work today, it may not work tomorrow. I may have 50 Smart Cj sites and 50 Smart Thumbs sites and 25 Smart Cj sites will have google.com traffic and the other half will not. It may be similar with the Smart Thumbs sites. It is a little ranom, and hard to predict. I've seen one Smart Thumbs site with 35k a day from google.com, and it went down to 0 overnight.

In general, I would know what to do in order to have the higest probability of getting search traffic to a SmartCj.com site, and I will be probably testing it. I also have more info that I put here, and I know these topics. It would be good if other people would join in, like I already mentioned, so it can be figured out, what to do. Either way more content, no link farm sites probably, and lower traffic skim. There is probably more things that can be done too.

I told this probably 100 times already
Google does not rank sites based on the script they use
It all depends on your content, links, traffic and so on.

admin wrote:I told this probably 100 times already
Google does not rank sites based on the script they use
It all depends on your content, links, traffic and so on.

I never said that they ban it because it is this script or /scj/admin in the url. It would be strange to see something like this, out of how things work. I would not want to get into lengthy descriptions here... I would only want to get good and complete info about what can be done about no traffic from google.com and search engines to SmartCj sites. Good, practical info, which resolves the problem, if possible, as this needs to be resolved.

I would say that a website with normal traffic from search is two times better than a site with 0 search traffic, at least. This traffic grows over time, as website becomes more popular, and gets more links. It is a good long term investment, to have something that works this way. I know that traffic trading may affect search results too, by itself, so it may be a similar situation with ST+Trade Expert or ST+Trade Pulse, or any other scripts. I am not saying it is SmartCj.com that is bad, as traffic trading gets in the way of good results in search, as far as I know. I've never worked on this yet, but I've been planning to start testing.

Overall, what they don't like is circle jerk sites (100% skim). People come to a site, and every link they click opens up a new window, with a different domain. If you have links to deeper pages, and lower traffic skim, this should be already good, but I am not sure if there are actual examples of high SemRush Rank SmartCj.com sites, at this point, based on what I've seen in google.com but this may be wrong. I've seen some like 2 years ago. Now, it seems like it's been going down, during this time, and there may be even no way to get it to work, since google.com has changed, I am not sure. As far as I know / heard, Smart Thumbs has better results, as far as traffic from search.

I will look at something like this too, tomorrow - http://demo.adultgallerypress.com/ - full page of thumbs (and more pages, pagination) with clickable thumbs, and each one leading to a different domain. It looks like it should be ok with google.com, I would say, "site:demo.adultgallerypress.com" shows all the pages indexed too. So it is a link farm, no content on the site, and traffic from google.com is coming in, most likely (I would need to make sure). So apart from the other things that I mentioned above, what is the difference between SmartCj.com and this, as far as traffic from search?

google.com -> "powered by AdultGalleryPress" (this is on the bottom of every site, by default). A lot of results, and it looks like nothing gets in the way of ranking there. I did not look into this fully yet, but it does not seem like there is a problem with this site:

google.com -> "site:mycreampiethais.com"

There is something, or multiple things google.com does not like about SmartCj.com sites, and it would need to be taken out of the way... It is an important problem, and it needs to be addressed.

"site:demo.smartcj.com" is showing results in google.com too, so this may not be the best thing to look at / compare, but by looking at Adult Gallery Press, I would say they should be ok, as far as traffic from search, for some reason. I am not sure what is it that google.com does not like with this script. And again, this may be traffic trading in general, and not just SmartCj.com.