Google / search traffic to SmartCj.com sites

[admin]

Nobody will share this information with you
If I know a secret to get to the first place in SERP - why would I share it with you? to create more competition?
Deal with it
And from my point of view - the best way to do it is to create 10-20-30 different sites\models\layouts and test them.

[total21]

LobsterTube.com should be a good example to compare here:

http://www.semrush.com/info/www.lobstertube.com?db=us

They have high SemRush Rank, and around 42,350 daily search engine traffic, according to SimilarWeb.com. It looks like it is 100% a circle jerk site, which sends traffic to tube sites. This is based on a script similar to what Mech Bunny used to sell (they discontinued around two years ago, because of the fact that sites like these were getting banned by Google; this one ranks anyway) and http://AdultSearchScript.com. LobsterTube.com has been ranking like this, steadily for at least two or three years, could be longer, so it just works.

So again, what is the difference here? What is the difference between SmartCj.com <-> LobsterTube.com <-> AdultGalleryPress.com. Why a very large percentage of SmartCj.com websites, if no all is severely affected by no traffic from Google / search? I guess we could ask people from AdultSearchScript.com too, on the forum, and see what they say there.

And as far as seo advice, I understand that people don't want to share how they rank, but this is different. I would not rank on the first page with any SmartCj.com sites with no links and right away, anyway, probably. The question here is why close to 100% of SmartCj.com sites get close to 0 if not 0 traffic from search. And also, if you are part of the discussion, you are not in a position of a webmaster but admin / owner of the script, who should know better (if not the best) what is going on. You should have access to all the domains, run them through bulk Alexa Rank checker or Bulk SemRush Rank checker, and try to see and figure out what may be going on, or get somebody to do it. Like I said, it would be the best for you and your company, long term, if this would work, or start to work, again.

http://BravoLatina.com - very nice site, could be an example of SmartCj.com site. I don't see how it is different from Adult Gallery Press. People click on images and go to different domains. Even lighter than LobsterTube.com as far as "circle jerk", cleaner, better, nice graphic design. Should have good parameters like time on site. MAYBE IT IS ABOUT NUMBER OF PAGES VISITED, and BOUNCE RATE?

google.com -> "site:bravolatina.com" - not there, there is no robots.txt blocking the url, or something like meta noindex. It is showing 6 pages in Bing for this, and 1 page in yandex.com.

I guess I would need to go over the previous discussions about it again. But BravoLatina.com is not just one site. It is an example of what is going on with 10k, 20k, 30k or more SmartCj.com domains, and this is a PROBLEM, and something that definitely affects you financially already / now, severely.

Testing different layouts is a good idea, and the suggestion is a step in a good direction, as far as trying to resolve this.

They measure things in their own way (Google), and it looks like SmartCj sites match some sort of patterns that they don't want to be present in search. It could be Bounce Rate, which is very high, but with this, not all SmartCj.com are 100% circle jerk. I've seen quite a lot of websites with deeper pages too, so there is website depth, and content there.

[admin]

You could've create at leave 2 sites while you were writing this reply.

[total21]

You could've create at leave 2 sites while you were writing this reply.

The reason I am writing is, that I am not sure if I want to start, before this gets cleared up. So I am potentially one of the lost customers, because of this. When sites with Plugrush code were getting banned from Google (it was not only mobile redirection, but other things too), they started working on changing the code to a new one, after one week, or so. I know that SmartCj.com is a good script, and I've seen good websites, based on this, but the issue with Google has been going on for 2+ years, and it has not been addressed. Again, it may not be SmartCj.com, it may be traffic trading in general, or other things that are not specific to only this one script. It does not make sense to discuss it any longer as it does not lead anywhere, but what I would like to see is a sticky post on the top of this forum, explaining exactly what was going on, what is going on now, how to work on websites to get traffic from google and search, or stating that this is not possible because of how things work, or whatever the situation is with this. Again, this is something like Plugrush and Ero-Advertising previously (both are ok now), people stay away from it because it does not work with Google.com. Lets say I want to make 100 sites, based on paid version of the script. I don't feel like investing 1 year of work and possibly $10,000+ into something like this. If I will decide to work on something like this, I will go for Smart Thumbs + Trade Expert, lets say, even though this script would be better than these two. So, it is up to you to decide what do to, and what you should do: a) don't react at all or b) address the situation and fix it (if it can be fixed, if not explain what the situation is).

This is probably very obvious right now, but I would say that you need to LOOK INTO IT and FIX IT, or at least EXPLAIN the situation (if Smart Thumbs, with any of the trading script would be affected in the same way, this would be related to how things work, and you either work on traffic trading and taking it into consideration, or work on something else if you want traffic from search).

We kind of going in circles, and there may be a reason for this too. You may know it cant be fixed, for whatever reason, and you avoiding stating it. I am just giving you a customer feedback with this, and suggesting things, and there is probably a lot of people who want to be getting traffic from search, if this can be done with traffic trading or even circle jerk. If you don't address it and solve it, it will cost you (a lot of) money, if it is fixed, working, and it gets cleared up, you may have 200% of income you will normally have from this script, and hiring a good seo company should not be an expensive thing. You can talk to AdultSeoPartners.com, have them asses the situation, create a sticky topic on the top of the forum about the seo situation with the script, and it would be solved / fixed (if it can be fixed, but I am assuming it cant be, because it's been two years, and now we are going in circles here).

[admin]

Sure, you can post here what should be changed and we will change it.

[total21]

Sure, you can post here what should be changed and we will change it.

I edited the last parahraph of post, after you answered. In general, I would get with somebody like AdultSeoPartners.com, have them asses the situation, or talk to people from Mech Bunny, Smart Thumbs, post on gfy.com or other sites, and figure it out. Whatever can be done - do it, and try to fix this, as this is an important thing. If there is 50,000 SmartCj.com and every site would be getting 100 uv per day from search, this is 5,000,000 of daily traffic, that people don't have, and you are the person who can change it, and in the end it comes back to you when you fix it, as paid licenses, 2% traffic skim. 2% of 5,000,000 is 100,000 daily hits, and this is $5k per month for you, so why would you not be trying to fix it, I am not sure...

[admin]

Because:

1. I told you 5 times already: SE traffic is not about scripts - you don't want to accept it

2. I told you it's about content, links and traffic you have - you still don't want to accept it

3. I told you that nobody will share such a valuable information. You can post wherever you want. "Those who know don’t talk. Those who talk don’t know." You can trust whoever you want, think that I'm hiding the truth and that somebody will asses the situation and will sell you the right answer. it doesn't work this way. This kind of business is easily expandable that means if somebody really knows what to do - they can create 100s of sites within a week and get 100 times more money then you would pay for the information. But in fact nobody knows for sure.

4. I told you that a proven way to get anything is to try. Create 10-20-30 sites and find out a working scheme for now. You prefer to write posts.

5. I also don't know the secret. Our work is to create a good tool. It's like an axe. Webmasters post requests for new modifications of axes depending on what type of trees they are going to chop down. But nobody says where they are going to do it or where to sell wood.

6. I could tell you that if you buy X paid copies - I'll tell you what to do. It would be the same as some people write books "How to make 10 millions in stocks" while those books is the only business where they actually make money. I'm just not that kind of person. So stop playing like "I'm about to buy 100 copies" and "if you don't tell me the secret I'll stick with another script". I'm not a salesman aimed to sell you something. The deal is real here. We don't sell air balloons. No catch here. No backdoors. No push sales. No broken promises. That might be the reason why SmartCJ is gonna have next version soon while most of scripts mentioned by you are not developed any more.


PS Here's how it looks here

[total21]

1) Can you tell me what the picture is?

2) "I told you it's about content, links and traffic you have"

a) content - Would this be the amount of content on the site? Put content on the site, instead of directing 100% of people, or close to this, somewhere else? I am asking because I am not sure, and it is a support forum. If I cant get an answer, that's ok too.

b) links - Links improve rankings, but I am not asking about that. My initial question and all that I have been talking about in this topic is related to regular functioning of a website based on this script in search engine sites. This would mean, having something like a Wordpress site, you add a domain there, it gets indexed, and you get more pages indexed, without any obstacles, if you add more pages and posts. So, I never asked for ranking on the first page for 100 keywords lets say, as this is a different here. I am only interested in SmartCj.com script not getting in the way of whats ok with google.com. So this would be something like sites not showing for "site:domain-name.com" which is very common still. So overall, links would not have anything to do with what I am asking about, as I am not asking about ranking higher, but being present in search engines, and without problems and long term.

c) traffic - traffic from search sites is a good indicator of site health, seo-wise. But this is a result and not a factor which generates good performance in search, so how this would be related, I am not sure. Would you mean that search engines look at what kind of traffic do you have to your site? Probably not, so I am not sure about this part too.

a) content - yes - this is important, and if you could give more info, on what to try doing, this would be very good. b) links and c) traffic to the site, I am not sure how this is related to what I am asking about. Again, my questions is related to something like SmartCj.com not showing for "site:domain-name.com" in google.com. You just taken out, and seo and search engine traffic is just not a factor here. I would like to have SmartCj.com sites, but something like Wordpress sites, seo friendly, and nothing gets in the way. Like I said before, it may be traffic trading that causes this too, so it is not just SmartCj script, probably.

Go to or have somebody go to GangstaBros.com and check how many of these domains show up in google.com for "site:domain-name.com", it was less than 30% 2 years ago, it could be almost none now, so this is what I am not sure about, as I would not want any of my sites, not getting indexed in google.com.

I don't want to be taking too much time, and I am kind of repeating myself a little bit too, but still I will probably experiment with one or three sites, before I would even order some kind of graphic designs. We are kind of talking about it, and not resolving it, other people don't join in too, so I guess I will just try it, or see how things develop over time.

3) I will add this too. Are there actual examples of SmartCj.com domains, that can prove all of this, or some of it wrong. Sites getting a lot of traffic from search, high SemRush Rank. If there would be, you would be able to post it here, to prove that SmartCj.com works with search engines, in this and this case. If not, I am personally very skeptical, still, and again it is a matter of investing 1 or 2 years of work and up to $20,000 (good graphic designs, hosting, paid licenses of the script), so it is an important thing. And pretty much, I am asking about it, because I've been planning to work on this.

4) And, in general, I am not trying to get some seo info, and saying that if I can get that, I will get the scripts. I will simply not get into it, if the situation is vague (that's what it is, still, up to this point) and I would suggest looking into this, and resolving the situation, as this is what needs to be done (like Plugrush changed their code, so it is ok with google.com). I am again, repeating myself, but a lot of what I am saying, asking about and suggesting does not seem to be getting across.

And, as an example, you are saying links, but why would anybody need links (except for referral traffic) if a domain is not showing in google for "site:domain-name"? And again, with this we are talking about 70 or 80% of SmartCj.com sites, if not more, at this point. So you are giving answers, but it does not seem to be making sense.

I started looking at Bravo Media Group sites, and their main tgp - BravoErotica.com is not showing for "site:bravoerotica.com" too, and there is 0 traffic from search. It is Smart Thumbs site, so it is a similar thing. This site gets like 80,000 of daily traffic from other sources, according to SimilarWeb.com. Another two of their sites (top, Smart Thumbs tgp), also not showing for "site:domain-name.com" and 0 traffic from search. I will check more later on, and I will post it here. So they would be banning Smart Thumbs sites too? Probably not ST sites by itself, but sites with traffic trading present on them. I heard something about it like 2 years ago, already, so this is probably traffic trading which gets in the way of good performance in google.com.

Thanks.

[admin]

It feels like you didn't read my reply and just continue to ask "tell me exactly how to get free traffic from google" and "i think google bans sites based on scripts they use" ... Please, reread my last post.

Yes, this is called "entrepreneurship", you don't know if you'll get any return at all.

[total21]

It can be probably assumed that xxx traffic trading sites are not a good choice for people who want traffic from search, and it is not just this script. I will look into this further, later on (like Trade Pulse or Trade Expert sites and traffic from search).